It's more likely Grievous's speed, near equal skill, unorthodox fighting style, as well as his strength in conjunction with everything else, that gives Dooku serious difficulty on occasion. Genji vs General Grievous is Peep4Life's one hundred and eighty-sixth DBX! @necromancer76: I would call it a good fight, but a short one. There's also no stylistic factors that could possibly aid Grievous. He tells Grievous that he killed not just the men, but the women and the children. Immediately following that text it explains how he wins the fight. @entoma: Don't use rape in a derogatory manner. The idea that he will be prepared for Grievous' highly randomized and 4 saber pronged offensive is patently absurd. "Leave me," he commanded simply. - Labyrinth of Evil. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Pay attention. Dooku proven he can handled Grievous's strength in the OCW spar. Close. lego clone wars. Grievous beat Hondo, making use of his vastly superior tactical abilities. @ordeith: so grevious drove mace back while mace was crouching and focused otherwise? Also, the OP doesn't say anything about not using the Force. Liste des citations de Général Grievous et Anakin dans le film/série Star Wars : Episode 3 - La revanche des sith. le deuxieme ah ah. It's not a mismatch, but not exactly a good fight given how thoroughly Anakin beat Dooku. I don't think Grievous would win, he would however, give Anakin a lot of trouble. @greysentinel365: Oh, now that I read it in his voice it sounds familiar. anakin VS general grivous I,2. ROTS Anakin also was far stronger than Dooku. with enough speed to overload Obi-Wans(with a oneness amp) defences, Anakin probably isn't faster. @kiadisandwich: @kilius: @hittheassasin: I'd like to see how that's all relevant, though... Anakin holds considerable speed, strength and skill advantages that would allow him to thoroughly trash GG's mechanic backside. Plot twist: Anakin Skywalker was sent to Utapau to finish Grievous instead of Obi-Wan Kenobi. Round 2-It can be a stomp, but Anakin doesn't abuse his force powers, so likely it will be a more one-sided version of round 1. General Grievous(ROTS) vs Anakin Skywalker(ROTS) Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links. Recherche. If he by some chance can't out fight GG with a saber, then Anakin would decimate GG with the Force, but with Force augmentation, Anakin takes this even with lightsabers. the grevious spar is an outliar even though we've seen dooku handling grevious's strength just fine more than once, but savage performing far beter than his more powerful incarnations isn't? Hondo > Hondo's crew > Anakin > Dooku > Obi-Wan. He knew every lightsaber form bar Vaapad. In LoE, Anakin used his voice to bring down the ceiling of a huge structure. I'm sure he'd be able to direct a single strike at the roof of the train when Grievous's own mobility is restricted to a greater degree then his own and he's also creating space between them by giving ground. Anakin ~ "I killed them all... not just the men...but the women and children to!". S'inscrire. il y a 13 ans | 111 vues. Being untrained, doesn't excuse him in a strength sense, Savage should have at least staggered Dooku with his blows, if he was really that strong. When he spied on the Separatist Council, he gave up the high ground (not Kenobi) and landed in the middle of the platform. General Discussion. His later iterations never fought Dooku. Who wins? When he was certain that he had their attention, he swung to Grievous. "I wish to be alone now." Signaler. Se connecter. Nowhere is it stated mace and grievous are exchanging strikes as he does that. Yes, but again, it is not something he does often. Star Wars Luke Skywalker goes back in time to save Anakin defeat Darth Sidious General Grievous yoda. - LOE If Grievous could press Dooku the same way Anakin could with his strength, then Dooku would be hard-pressed to outduel Grievous almost all the time, not just in moments. Grievous drove Mace back prior to Mace crouching down. il y a 13 ans | 63 vues. Cómo Yoda Quería que Anakin se Enfrentara a Darth Sidious - Star Wars. anakin VS general grivous I,3. Anakin was tactically preoccupied when dealing with a single melee weapon from Hondo Ohnaka. More over in a later outing against Ventress in the tag duel with Obi-Wan and Maul, he fails to floor her, even when he had leverage on his side and Ventress is at best equal to Dooku in strength(to be fair he did send her flying in the three way bout, but that was when he was deeply enraged, so it's not a normal showing). I'm with you for the most part but I disagree with this. 4 years ago. À suivre. Anakin regularly uses the force in duels, no idea where this Anakin doesn't use the force thing comes from, @hittheassasin: 20 strikes per second>>peak human. But for that power he's not thinking straight, Grievous might pull something off. @kbroskywalker: The following sequence of events occurs end of the passage; Mace and Grievous exchange blows, Mace thinks to himself that he needs to end the duel, Mace reacts by cutting a hole in the train roof in front of where Grievous is advancing towards him steadily. This is Legends for both, right? Cutting missiles while outright escaping before they explode is impressive. And then when the two other Jedi got dispatched, he held his own. I said that by giving ground Mace was able to more easily carry out the maneuver. Grievous,snarling fury, ramped up the intensity and velocity of his attacks-sixteen per second, eighteen-until finally, at twenty strikes per second, he overloaded Obi-Wans defences. is grevious driving mace back mentioned in that quote? As his guards disappeared down the corridor, the general allowed his limbs to hang limply at his sides, with the expection of one - his lower right arm stayed cautiously on his lightsaber. The only reason Grievous wouldn't continue to press his assault would be that Mace had somehow moved outside of his attack range, but we know the very next action he carries out after reacting to Grievous's strikes is cutting the hole in the roof meaning he was still within Grievous's range. 3 years ago. Obi-Wan held off Anakin for extended periods of time just fine, so.... Also, Mundi was losing despite having Shaak Ti and 2 other Jedi backing him, this was also right at the beginning of the Generals career, he didn't have that many styles under his belt yet. @wollfmyth209: Anakin holds considerable speed. Overall, GG high end feats won't outclass AS high end feats. They might not outright choke ppl, but jedi are perfectly willing to use the force to win and end fights, and there are times they're even willing to kill with it depending on the source. Anakin is good, too. 43.7k. This is assuming duel only however. Yoda has outright killed people with the force, Kenobi has cracked ppl's ribs, and mace has force crushed grevious. Him not being a sith basically means he just isn't going to outright choke people with it(and even then, Anakin can do that depending on the situation and if he gets angry). @kbroskywalker: He has precognition and moves about as fast as Grievous. "Power moves served you well on Hypori against Jedi such as Daakman Barrek and Tarr Seir. Then when comparing feats of raw strength and not just how they stack up to other characters, Anakin still comes off as superior. Neither did Ki-Adi-Mundi and he held his ground extremely well. This is all consistent with the OCW spar. You keep overblowing this, jedi can't abuse the force thing. @lordofthelight: He did Force push Dooku in the comic. General Grievous-8/10. He doesn't abuse the force to win fights, because that isn't his main impulse, unlike characters like Maul, Opress, etc. Mismatch. I'm not claiming it's fact that Mace didn't do anything in between exchanging strikes and carrying out the maneuver. Après avoir eu vent de la présence de Grievous sur Utapau, la République envoie le général Obi-Wan Kenobi afin de le combattre. His Force ability was so great that it startled Tyranus. Anakin, however, is much more skilled and wins swiftly in a fight. @hittheassasin: Dooku could match it easily as long as Anakin wasn't rage amped and we never have evidence stating Dooku didn't have trouble with Grievous's strength. Bibliothèque. @i_like_swords: It's also stated Grievous was "no match" for Kenobi, and even in the movie it takes ten seconds for the Jedi Master to slice off the General's hand. Take that as you will. Dooku beat Grievous, making use of his superior tactical abilities and lightsaber skill. Though he is more skilled and pulls through in the end. As does any other iteration here. lego clone wars. then quote grievous driving mace back as the text mentions them fighting or take your unsubstantiated assumptions elsewhere. Grievous gets his collection of sabers pushed where the sun doesn’t shine. He's just outright inferior. First off: Anakin >>>> an exhausted Mundi. Dude's videos are jokes. If one high-end feat performed by each character outclasses a low-end feat by the same character, that high-end feat takes the lead, dismissing lowballing. No. I think you misunderstood. Anakin is too fast and skilled. Anakin with a clear head>Kenobi. When has Dooku handled Grievous' strength fine more than once? 0 ... EU Anakin and Grievous have a wealth of showings that would good to compare. Anakin usually only abuses the Force if pressed or enraged. He was restless, co… There's no other option then but for Mace to have been falling back under Grievous's assault since the only action Mace is stated to be carrying out in between reacting to Grievous's strikes is his cutting a hole in the roof. Above Coruscant, Obi-Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker lead a mission to rescue the kidnapped Supreme Chancellor Palpatine from the cyborg Separatist commander General Grievous.After infiltrating Grievous' flagship, the Jedi battle Sith Lord Count Dooku, whom Anakin overpowers and decapitates at Palpatine's urging.Grievous escapes the battle-torn ship, which the Jedi crash-land on Coruscant. The Grievous example is an outliar. I think you misunderstood. @kbroskywalker: I'm sorry, what? Composite versions of each, then the composite of Anakin includes ROTS Anakin. DarkDefender. 1 month ago. I'm not using it as proof of anything. I don't know how to say this in any other way. Aight, it invalidates grievous driving him back all the same. And Dooku was clearly handling Grievous's strikes without any visible strain in the OCW spar. But I pity you should you have to face off against any of the Council Masters.". He tells Grievous that he killed not just the men, but the women and the children. He also defeated jango and boba fett in many Vs Debates from what I've seen. Grievous and Mace barely fought at all. @ordeith: you mean aside from mace being able to crouch low which he wouldn't be able to do if he was engaging grveious at the moment? Grievous>Anakin in strength, by feats, and feats>performances against the same guy, especially when they have context behind them. There are a lot of options for Skywalker here, and his high end feats take the lead. And I'm sorry to have to inform you of this but the text disagrees with you. Regarder en plein écran. @thesithmaster: Dooku handling Grievous's strength in OCW isn't an outlier. He has the Force, superior physicals and superior skill. Grievous' strength was held off by Obi-Wan and Dooku and both managed to wrestle with him in such affairs. il y a 13 ans | 125 vues. Yes he does. Mace is never stated to be particularly trying and the degree to which Grievous mag-lock restricted his maneuverability is overblown. 16:21 . All of Grievous’ advantages would be rendered moot when facing Anakin. He was a general of the Seperatist droids during the Clone Wars. You need to substantiate a claim before you try and pass it off as truth. High-peak human speeds mean nothing to Force users, lol. All-out, Anakin rips him to shreds with the Force. 4:46. Anakin > Dooku > Grievous > Hondo > Hondo's crew > Anakin > Dooku > Obi-Wan. Nothing in LOE contradicts this, if anything it supports it. Grievous could strike 20 times per second with enough speed to overload Obi-Wans(with a oneness amp) defences, Anakin probably isn't faster. I'm to believe Mundi is > Anakin? Obviously he wrecks in the force. Vidéos à découvrir. Kit Fisto A master of form 1, the simplest one, Kit Fisto is a skilled duelist. @kbroskywalker: Mace and Grievous are stated to be exchanging strikes in the sentence prior. Dooku handled Grievous once. Chaque citation, réplique ou dialogue est triée sur le volet. He takes a fair few bruises though. Savage's strength showings are all over the map, at least half of which support Dooku's case. 5. 4 years ago. And he was, in LOE and OCW when Grievous started using the Unorthodox. Anakin on IH beats through Grievous with less difficulty. Obi-Wan andante del cielo pálido Anakin vs obi. À suivre. Grievous's extra sabers will offer a source of unpredictability Anakin simply isn't tactically suited to counter. 9 Anakin vs General Grievous. Anakin replies with "General Grievous you are shorter than I expected." Grievous reçoit des ordres. He is intelligent, and although he is brash, he can be because he can back it up. Maul . Or are you just pointing to crap that was made up. The encounter lasted "a single exchange". give me a quote saying grevious drove mace back, all your quote indicates is that Mace was cutting into the space below. Jedi Anakin wins for a majority in good fights. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Obi-Wan is incapacitated after an unfortunate incident with Hoi broth and the Council elects to send Anakin in his place. KF Vader razes him within the first few seconds if it's a sword fight, or instantly in all out. I see no reason to assume they would've disengaged. 13:19. Grievous can adapt to Anakin's style considering he probably has it in his computers, and Anakin has never fought someone who wields 4 lightsabers and uses an unorthodox style like Grievous does. Obi-Wan wasn't in Oneness, lmfao. And Dooku has briefly contended with Yoda's strength, so he should be able to deal with Savage's strength based on that alone. 3:18. All other spars are not revealed to the reader and thus what happened is pure conjecture. Who will win in a fight between Anakin Skywalker & Count Dooku and Obi-Wan Kenobi & General Grievous? 3v1. KMC Forums > Star Wars > Star Wars: Literature & Expanded Universe > Star Wars Versus Forum > General Grievous(ROTS) vs Anakin Skywalker(ROTS) General G. setting is in the place Darth Sidious and Yoda fought, except noone … Regardez anakin VS general grivous I,3 - lego clone wars sur Dailymotion. So really when all is said and done Dooku on a more consistent bases should be capable of contending with Grievous's strength without too much issue. The space created between Grievous and Mace by the latter's retreat simply helped Mace to carry out the maneuver. @kbroskywalker: Except nothing indicates he gave ground to carry out the maneuver. In at his peak, he along with Maul were pushed back in a blade-lock by Sidious. @ordeith: grievous is advancing steadily as mace is cutting the train. Sidious is at best equal to Yoda in a strength sense, going by their own blade-locks. this was also right at the beginning of the Generals career, he didn't have that many styles under his belt yet. 16:11 . Two cyborgs clash blades, will it be the ninja or the Kaleesh Warlord who prevails? Regardez anakin VS general grivous I,4 - lego clone wars sur Dailymotion. Still an incredibly tough fight though. Crouching low, he angled the blade downward and slashed, guiding it through the roof of the car, perpendicular to Grievous's stalwart advance." Anakin strength was also held off by both(while non- rage amped), Dooku could match it easily as long as Anakin wasn't rage amped and we never have evidence stating Dooku didn't have trouble with Grievous's strength. He abuses more than normal Jedi, sure, but not even remotely close to how Sith abuse it. @hittheassasin: Grievous could strike 20 times per second. Dooku ordonna ensuite à Grievous via hologramme de détruire une station médicale contenant plus de 60 000 soldats blessés. This is no contest, really, especially with no droids around to distract Anakin. LOL. Plot. @ordeith: if he's creating space in order to exploit the environment vs grevious, then grevious driving him back isn't valid anyway. Se connecter. Wide skill advantage>>respectable strength advantage. Anakin has mad tunnel vision. He can force push Grevious to the other side of the building. Don't confuse raw strength with combatively applicable strength. Well, it’s has to do with his fighting style in relation to the other top duelists of the Jedi order (the top 5). He was given grief in LoE, and given grief in OCW once Grievous started using the Unorthodox. When Mace decided to BFR Grievous there was very little he could do about it. You're drawing a conclusion out of thin air here; that Grievous drove Windu back is simply an unsubstantiated assertion. It's you who's twisting himself like a pretzel in an attempt to avoid, what for you, is probably an unpleasant/inconvenient truth. Anakin's a pretty willing to use the force. because if he crouches and aims for something else, grevious would bisect him? Delbertshearer55. Composite versions apply here. I'm just saying that I personally am not going to assume he did when the text didn't not that. Grievous isn't the only example, Dooku's contended even with Yoda's strength for a time. Star Wars: The Clone Wars - Season 3 Episode 02 ARC Troopers [1080p] Grievous was already advancing when Mace decided he needed to end the fight. Not really a debate to be had here to be honest. That they were exchanging strikes before Mace decided that he had bigger fish to fry proves nothing. Grievous' penchant for analyzing and mirroring attack patterns could prove a problem for him. The only way Grievous WASN'T driving Mace back was if Mace had done something in between reacting to his strikes and carrying out the maneuver. @kbroskywalker: Kbro. S'inscrire. The victor is obvious. Signaler. Duzicoj. And Kenobi at this point is >Grievous. There are no droids present in this scenario. It's funny how you're willing to use an absence of evidence as proof that Mace didn't give himself space, but then ignore that such a line of reasoning would lead us to conclude that Mace and Grievous weren't even engaged at the moment. A chance, sure, but that chance is decreased greatly by the lack of droids (to distract Anakin). And he was pressured, but not overloaded. This is not accounting for his Force powers, which even further aid him in what essentially becomes a stomp. … An opponent with inferior strength to Grievous beat Dooku down twice and another inferior opponent sent him flying. he used it against dooku in aotc, against ventress multiple times, against offee, and against dooku again in the tcw movie. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Composite Grievous (legends version) isn't a joke. @ordeith: you mean aside from mace being able to crouch low which he wouldn't be able to do if he was engaging grveious at the moment? Grievous can adapt to Anakin's style considering he probably has it in his computers. That ROTS novel thing isn't Oneness, it is Empty Meditation, and the number of times this has been parroted. kek... Jedi and Sith training is harsher than Batman's regime and they react daily to hypersonic blaster fire. That may very well be the case but I'm not going to assume that when nothing in the texts says or suggests such a thing. But they'd do better given how Savage grew fast. I'm not claiming it's fact that Mace didn't do anything in between exchanging strikes and carrying out the maneuver. Also, Mundi was losing despite having Shaak Ti and 2 other Jedi backing him. Betsykbass0395. In normal circumstances, Dooku has no business matching Grievous' strength. Grievous' performance against Mace in LOE was impressive. You know Kenobi's defences weren't actually overwhelmed, right? Even at his most enraged state in the IH, he didn't use the force against Dooku. Grievous did press him in LOE but as the text states, only in moments: There had been moments during the extensive combat sessions when even Dooku had beenhard-pressed to outduel the cyborg. that would allow him to thoroughly trash GG's mechanic backside. that quote doesn't say what you're trying to pass it off as saying. Grievous drove Mace back prior to Mace crouching down. If Savage was just that freakishly strong, it would be acceptable, but Dooku meet his strength just fine in a previous sparing session, once again consistent with the Grievous showing. @chingchangwalla: Not really. Windu gave ground in order to have an easier time doing what he was doing? anakin VS general grivous I,4. Not to mention Windu would have had to use the force to anchor himself while doing his acrobatics anyway to keep form being blown away. Obi-Wan has short ginger hair and a beard. Mace and Grievous can't be exchanging strikes while Grievous was advancing unless Mace was giving ground. where are any blows grevious and mace are supposedly exchanging mentioned in the quote you use? I'm just saying that I personally am not going to assume he did when the text didn't note that. As of ROTS, he's the strongest and best their is. General Grievous was the Supreme Commander of the Armies of the Confederacy of Independent Systems during the Clone Wars against the Galactic Republic. I say grievous because I like grievous better? ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Not that he gave ground to do so. Recherche. @kbroskywalker: No, I just noted that that's NOT what he was doing. Star … The fight was almost a stomp in Obi-Wan's favor, so one can only imagine how hard Anakin would smash him. Pour ce faire, le Malveillant dut passer proche de la Nébuleuse Kaliida.Mais Anakin Skywalker, qui dirigeait un petit escadron, réussit à détruire le canon principal du vaisseau de Grievous. Vidéos à découvrir. The very air was agitated, it seemed, and the general could only feel the same way. Meanwhile, Anakin dominated both. I've deleted your comment. Vidéos à découvrir. @alextheboss: Yea, I don't know why it's doing that. 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