But Ashoka has the advantage in lightsaber abilities. That is, the ones Kylo didn't get to first. Boomstick: He's also durable as hell! ._3Im6OD67aKo33nql4FpSp_{border:1px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-widgetColors-sidebarWidgetBorderColor);border-radius:5px 5px 4px 4px;overflow:visible;word-wrap:break-word;background-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);padding:12px}.lnK0-OzG7nLFydTWuXGcY{font-size:10px;font-weight:700;letter-spacing:.5px;line-height:12px;text-transform:uppercase;padding-bottom:4px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-navIcon)} Rex and Phasma fire at each other, neither able to get a decisive blow on the other.Phasma: "Your soldiers were mere target practice for me. Boomstick: "So what" you might say? Django Fett Jedi Grand Master. Ahsoka’s a better duelist, but Kylo’s statue feat puts him miles ahead of Ahsoka and tbh, a lot of other canon force users. They fight in Snokes throne room. ._1PeZajQI0Wm8P3B45yshR{fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._1PeZajQI0Wm8P3B45yshR._3axV0unm-cpsxoKWYwKh2x{fill:#ea0027} Namely, many of his greatest victories came from fighting alongside his men. Kylo and Rey are the Elsa of force-users. Each time he has chosen himself, his power." Without your pistols, you might as well run. Boomstick: We all know how good he is with Padawans and Younglings afterall! "Ahsoka: "Funny, you look about ready to collapse yourself! Feeling let-down by his father, Han Solo, he was seduced to the Dark Side from the evil Supreme Leader Snoke. Kylo seems to have a better use of combat related force abilities such as freezing his opponents and as previously mentioned, pulling a ship from the sky. Luke replied, retaining his aged appearance, unlike his father who still chose to appear as a youth. Needless to say, that blew up right in his god damn face, and his whole order was destroyed. E: Also, to those saying Kylo and Rey forget their Force feats in battle...that's just a standard part of Star Wars. No matter how gifted Rey is with the Force, she still isn't trained. First, how do you black out spoilers like that? Whether Kylo would do that is a different question though. .s5ap8yh1b4ZfwxvHizW3f{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);padding-top:5px}.s5ap8yh1b4ZfwxvHizW3f._19JhaP1slDQqu2XgT3vVS0{color:#ea0027} The armor he wears is not for protection. "Chewbacca always was an awesome Wookiee." "Kylo keeps pressing his attacks, believing eventually his physical strength will breach his Togruta opponent's defenses. He also survived for hours and fought twice while having a bowcaster wound. Kylo has massively better force feats than Ahsoka. Ahsoka would win a duel, but I don’t think she could stop him from ragdolling her with the force. Kylo can't even beat some teenage desert scavenger who's been using a lightsaber for all of thirty seconds. Wiz: Despite this, the two quickly formed a bond, and Ahsoka grew to be her own Jedi. He's fought hand to hand with a traitorous clone, and more impressively, when imprisoned by Keeper Agruss of the Zygerrian Slave Empire, was able to hurl an electrified spear with enough force to impale Agruss completely. He doesn't have the upper hand, but he's in the fight. Boomstick: Yeah, once Ahsoka got kidnapped by a bunch of lizard people known as Trandoshans, who were going to use her as sport for their hunting party. Ahsoka reaches for her lightsabers "Who are you? Kylo: "I am Kylo Ren, leader of the Knights of Ren. Back with Ahsoka and Kylo, the two swing their sabers and dodge one another's attempts at killing blows, as Kylo starts fighting more aggressively.Kylo: "You may be nimble, but I can see you're starting to tire, Jedi. ._1x9diBHPBP-hL1JiwUwJ5J{font-size:14px;font-weight:500;line-height:18px;color:#ff585b;padding-left:3px;padding-right:24px}._2B0OHMLKb9TXNdd9g5Ere-,._1xKxnscCn2PjBiXhorZef4{height:16px;padding-right:4px;vertical-align:top}._1LLqoNXrOsaIkMtOuTBmO5{height:20px;padding-right:8px;vertical-align:bottom}.QB2Yrr8uihZVRhvwrKuMS{height:18px;padding-right:8px;vertical-align:top}._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0{font-size:14px;font-weight:500;line-height:18px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._1LLqoNXrOsaIkMtOuTBmO5,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._2B0OHMLKb9TXNdd9g5Ere-,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._1xKxnscCn2PjBiXhorZef4,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 .QB2Yrr8uihZVRhvwrKuMS{fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)} Showing a much more sparatic and athletic use of the weapon. Vader can choke people and negate energy, but he doesn't use either of those (incredibly powerful) abilities in duels. Rey vs Kylo Ren* Ahsoka Tano* vs General Grievous Qui-Gon Jinn vs Asajj Ventress* Anakin Skywalker and Yoda* vs Darth Sidious (but Anakin Skywalker dies) Mace Windu* vs Kylo Ren Ahsoka Tano* vs Asajj Ventress Team Luke Skywalker wins. Wiz: Despite her strengths, Ahsoka still has some weaknesses. That was more awesome than I anticipated! Wiz: Rex is a skilled leader and master combatant, able to gun down hoards of battle droids and other hostiles on the battlefield with his two trusty pistols. Stand down or die, Commander Tano." "Phasma: "Your love for your troops will be your downfall! No, it should be Kylo Ren killing Ahsoka so we can confirm the ST did happen and so I can watch some of you folks whinge some more. Wiz: Rex is also smarter than most other clones, as he was able to recognize the warnings of his soldier Fives and defy order 66 when it came time. ._33axOHPa8DzNnTmwzen-wO{display:block;padding:0 16px;width:100%}.isNotInButtons2020 ._33axOHPa8DzNnTmwzen-wO{font-size:14px;font-weight:700;letter-spacing:.5px;line-height:32px;text-transform:uppercase} Wiz: After the Empire fell, a new order rose to take its place. (edited 3 weeks ago) Ahsoka wins this one. Kylo has no chance. Unless there’s something I’m missing, Kylo doesn’t stand a chance. "Rex: "Neither of us are backing down. Wiz: However, Kylo would prove to be the downfall of Luke's new Jedi order. 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Ahsoka beat Darth fucking Maul, Kylo loses. Her master's teachings have made her somewhat reckless and hasty, and she has been incapacitated by opponents such as Cad Bane and Aurra Sing. A bowcaster wound is No joke!. Boomstick: Not to mention, he's strong physically too, I mean look at him! Boomstick: These DC-17 Hand Blasters may be small, but they are far from weak. All orders are custom made and most ship worldwide within 24 hours. Ahsoka ain't that stronk. Ahsoka Tano, Togruta, spy, and one who walked away from the Jedi pipped up. A black robed figure stands wielding a crossguarded lightsaber over the corpses of the missing troopers, as a soldier in metallic armor walks from behind him. Ahsoka and Rex are investigating the disappearances of a squad of 501st troopers. "Ahsoka: "Empire? Palpatine absolutely thrashes Maul in Clone Wars. Boomstick: Yeah, Kylo's not much of a strategist and is rather overconfident in his ability, which led to him being defeated by Rey on Starkiller Base. I love Kylo Ren, but Dart Vader is the better fighter and stronger in the force. Plasmas 1 year ago #2. Who would win? Boomstick: And of course, like any Jedi, Ahsoka's greatest ally is the force. During a battle on Saleucami, Rex was shot in the chest by a sniper, and by the next night was back kicking Commando Droid ass! The only thing she has over him is skill, which doesn’t matter when your opponent can literally freeze you in place. You are indeed where you belong. Rey beats Palps. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/IdCard.0f76af1b61e8e247d28f.css.map*/._2JU2WQDzn5pAlpxqChbxr7{height:16px;margin-right:8px;width:16px}._3E45je-29yDjfFqFcLCXyH{margin-top:16px}._13YtS_rCnVZG1ns2xaCalg{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:18px;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex}._1m5fPZN4q3vKVg9SgU43u2{margin-top:12px}._17A-IdW3j1_fI_pN-8tMV-{display:inline-block;margin-bottom:8px;margin-right:5px}._5MIPBF8A9vXwwXFumpGqY{border-radius:20px;font-size:12px;font-weight:500;letter-spacing:0;line-height:16px;padding:3px 10px;text-transform:none}._5MIPBF8A9vXwwXFumpGqY:focus{outline:unset} Ahsoka on the other hand was trained in both the Force and lightsaber since she was a toddler, on top of fighting and surviving against some of the best lightsaber duelists of the new canon (Ventress, Maul, VADER.) High quality Star Wars Ahsoka gifts and merchandise. 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Kill it if you have to.". "Ahsoka leaps above Kylo, slashing his helmet, which her opponent takes off and throws to the ground in fury.Kylo: "You will not be my first Jedi victim, Tano! Boomstick: He then was able to formulate a plan to defeat and capture said general, and it worked! Anyway, Rex has fought in some of the most dangerous battles of the clone wars, such as Christophsis, the Second Battle of Geonosis, and Umbara, a planet full of hostile natives, dangerous wildlife, and all under the command of a traitorous Jedi who was trying to get the clones killed. Yep. May 7th, 2020 12:13 AM: … Rex: "The name's Rex. A single shot from one of Rex's pistols was enough to pierce the clone trooper helmet of a BX Commando Droid and take it down as well. Some of the most notable include Anakin Skywalker killing a room full of children, Luke Skywalker learning that Darth Vader is his father and Kylo Ren murdering Han Solo. "Ahsoka: "Kylo, I've fought Grievous, the most well known Jedi killer in history, and from what I've experienced fighting you so far, he's still more worthy of that title than you. "A black robed figure stands wielding a crossguarded lightsaber over the corpses of the missing troopers, as a soldier in metallic armor walks from behind him.Ahsoka reaches for her lightsabers "Who are you?Kylo: "I am Kylo Ren, leader of the Knights of Ren. Kylo: "Let the past die. And trained by Luke and Smoke, two of the strongest Force users out there. A large pale man in a leather jacket walks through a dimly lit sewer, as a large, green scaled humanoid crawls out of the water and roars. Ahsoka Tano left the Jedi Order in The Clone Wars, but now there are reasons to suspect that she returned to the Jedi path. ATfire567 1 year ago #1. Again, I'm not a huge fan of the sequels, and the power buff we see in episode 7+ is never satisfactorily explained; but none of that is really relevant. I'll handle the Jedi. 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This would throw kylo off because there really hasn’t been much lightsaber training given to him. Wiz: Phasma's armor is made of Chromium, and is much more durable than standard Stormtrooper armor. How to Create Your Own What-If Death Battles, General Death Battle TN and Template Blog, 'Battle of the Genders' themed Death Battles, 'Movies vs TV Shows' themed Death Battles, https://deathbattlefanon.fandom.com/wiki/Ahsoka_Tano_and_Captain_Rex_vs_Kylo_Ren_and_Captain_Phasma?oldid=1469743. Ahsoka: "You don't have to look tough to be tough.". Boomstick: Which looks really fuckin' cool by the way. ForJustice1324 1 y 10 d . Boomstick: However, despite her cool looks and weaponry, Phasma is still an ordinary human when it comes to durability and strength. He decides to capitalise on this opportunity and insert himself into the life of his beloved grandfather Anakin Skywalker. _____ The price of fame is high and the Thing cant pay the way. Kylo Ren vs. Rey Luke Skywalker note ... Ahsoka wipes the tears away and smiles slightly. "Rex: "Let me tell you, one captain to another, that I will make sure they did not die in vain. Ahsoka speaks with Anakin, while also speaking to Yoda, Mace Windu, Obi-Wan Kenobi and Plo Koon over Hologram, as a medical droid attends to Rex. Second she only injured Vader because he wasn’t paying attention, he beat her then left to go after Ezra then she jumped him while he was distracted landing a hit because he wasn’t even facing her. Trained by the Actual chosen one (My boy Anakin) and Obi Wan-Kenobi (THE Form 3 master), Managed to injure vader while other jedi knights or masters were hunted down by him, Better lightsaber skill and form in combat (Form 4 and if i can remember correctly form 6), Went toe to toe with DARTH MAUL while she was just a teenager, Survived Order 66 in the initial attack and survived long enough to see the empire and fight against it, ._3bX7W3J0lU78fp7cayvNxx{max-width:208px;text-align:center} ‎Show Geekville Radio, Ep AhsoRosario Dawson cast as Ahsoka Tano, Chewbacca vs Kylo Ren, Black Widow trailer, Ruffalo in She-Hulk, and pay tribute to Kenny Rogers. "Ahsoka: "I've never heard of the Knights of Ren, but it's obvious that they are no friend to the Jedi Order. It premiered on the Star Wars Kids YouTube channel on April 17, 2020. "Rex grabs her baton, as the two captains struggle to wrench it from the other's grasp.Rex: "The fight's not over until one of us dies ma'am, and unfortunately for you." "Kylo Ren vs. Resistance Rebels" is the forty-fourth episode of Star Wars Galaxy of Adventures. Like...y'all saying Ahsoka was trained by the Chosen One--but Kylo was not only Anakin's descendant but also fought the ST's Chosen One. "Phasma: "Yes sir. If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. Ahsoka is backing up, taking a defensive stance against her opponent, and manages to hit Kylo's shoulder with her shoto, causing Kylo to yell in pain and lift Ahsoka in the air with a force choke.Kylo: "This is the end for you, Ahsoka. "Phasma is furious, grabbing her blaster again and firing at Rex, who evades the fire, before hurling the baton with enough force to destroy her blaster.Phasma: "So be it, I'll kill you with my bare hands! Kylo Ren tore down a Jedi temple using just the force, fought and beat 3 of Luke’s best students using Just the force even though at this point Luke had way more knowledge of the force learning from Lor San Tekka. 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